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Saki =^.^=: Hello!


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Sukanya Sinha: Yeah,


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Sukanya Sinha: I guess you're sharing your full screen. I can see the slides, but I can.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay.


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Sukanya Sinha: Everything else on your desktop.


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Saki =^.^=: Well, my computer does not like this screen share thing.


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Sukanya Sinha: Do you want us to share instead? I mean,


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Sukanya Sinha: one of us could share. If you feel comfortable.


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Saki =^.^=: Oh, wait. I think it's okay. My screen share just stopped


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Saki =^.^=: and my computer went into very low resolution mode. Maybe let me try this again.


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Saki =^.^=: okay, hopefully, that's working. Now, can you see my screen.


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Sukanya Sinha: Yeah.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay, here we go, then.


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Saki =^.^=: Yes, perfect move. I need to minimize the zoom window. All I see is my big face right now.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay, here we go. So I talk is our talk and workshop is oh, that is the old title that somehow. Okay, anyway, the new title fathoming our carbon footprint through art. Sorry, this is from an old presentation. Okay? So a brief introduction is not super necessary, because I just got introduced by Jan. But


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Saki =^.^=: basically, yeah, this this is kind of the summary of who I am. If you want to know more, you can just scan the QR code that goes to my website, and I won't bore you with that right now. So let's go on to the next slide. And I can tell you about this really cool project that I'm working on?


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Saki =^.^=: So I am a member of green labs, Austria. And I'm a visiting artist at Easta. That's the Institute of science and technology, Austria. And there's a really cool sustainability group


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Saki =^.^=: initiative at Easta. And they basically said, Hey, we're looking for an artist to do something with all of our plastic lab waste that we're just throwing away because there aren't any recycling options.


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Saki =^.^=: And we want to recruit someone to do something with it to raise awareness and get people interested in helping make research more sustainable. So yeah, I just happened to be in the right spot at the right time, and I partnered with them and started making


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Saki =^.^=: things like this nitrile glove dress.


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Saki =^.^=: So we kind of had some general goals when we started doing this project which was to at the very minimal level rescue at least some plastic from the incinerator. So I know this isn't like super relevant for a lot of the high energy physics research. But


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Saki =^.^=: I'm just gonna give this presentation as I was as I used to give it. This is just like as a result of single use, plastics being used a lot in life science research, there's just it accumulates a lot. And we're just trying to rescue a little bit from getting trashed, and our second goal was to yeah, use it to raise awareness, give people something exciting to look at and go like, Oh, I want to learn more.


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Saki =^.^=: And then our 3rd goal was to inspire people to actually do something about it and not just get excited for the cause.


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Saki =^.^=: So yeah, that's how this project got started and why we're doing it.


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Saki =^.^=: And so the question is, why do we choose art? So there are plenty of other methods for raising awareness, and we see we try to use them on or we. Before I got to Easter they were using a lot of these methods to try to engage the community and get them interested. But I'm going to go over a few of the shortcomings of these strategies that they were using.


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Saki =^.^=: So the 1st is that there's often a lot of complex data charts, graphs. And this is kind of for some people. It can be boring, and it can kind of be a little bit incomprehensible. And they're like numbers so


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Saki =^.^=: that can be a kind of


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Saki =^.^=: a hurdle that people have to jump over in order to get involved in sustainable research.


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Saki =^.^=: And so another problem kind of related is that people might just not be able to like grasp


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Saki =^.^=: like just how much plastic is being consumed, just how much energy they're using. So


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Saki =^.^=: again, maybe too many numbers, too many graphs and datas


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Saki =^.^=: and then it's another huge problem is that it's often kind of like a like an apocalyptic message. And you know, kind of like guilt, Trippy, like. Oh, you shouldn't do research because you're using so much plastic. And that's really not the message that we want to send. We want people to get excited about what they could do for the environment.


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Saki =^.^=: the kind of actually, maybe the biggest problem that we faced at the Institute is that it can sometimes be just a lot of effort for people to join the cause they go like, oh, that looks like a lot of work. I have to focus on my research.


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Saki =^.^=: So how does art solve these problems or address these problems?


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Saki =^.^=: So here are some of the strengths of using art to raise awareness for sustainability.


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Saki =^.^=: So the 1st one is that art is is interesting, and it's nice to look at, or in the case of like music it's nice to listen to, and the


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Saki =^.^=: my goal as an artist is to send a clear message that doesn't need a whole lot of text and and numbers and data to look at in order to understand the problem and to understand the solution.


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Saki =^.^=: So I mean, you, you do need to know all these, the data and the numbers. But it's it's kind of like a gateway. A little thing to get people interested enough to look at the data.


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Saki =^.^=: Another huge benefit of art is that a sculpture, for example, can help people visualize the actual physical mass of the waste that's getting generated in the case of plastic single use plastics in labs. They can just see this pile of trash and go. That's what


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Saki =^.^=: a hundred kilograms of plastics is what it looks like.


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Saki =^.^=: And instead of this kind of sad, gloomy message that yeah, we're we're kind of not in a good spot we are trying to say, hey, we were in a bad spot, and we're getting out. So we're trying to communicate some a hopeful message, an optimistic message of where we can go from here.


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Saki =^.^=: And lastly, art is a great way to kind of get scientists involved in the creation process. And it's I mean as an artist. I'm like, Oh, free art supplies. So it's it's great for me. It's really a win-win situation.


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Saki =^.^=: So yeah, these are kind of the reasons that we chose art as an innovative approach to get people to do sustainable science.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay, sorry. My screen shares.


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Saki =^.^=: This toolbar is blocking click somewhere else. Okay, anyway, I will figure this out. So


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Saki =^.^=: in the beginning when I 1st joined the Institute the


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Saki =^.^=: basic scenario that was there was that people who were already interested people who sorry the people who are doing this sustainability stuff like people who are attending the events that the lectures and participating in the recycling programs. They were people who are just like already interested in sustainability.


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Saki =^.^=: And the problem was that they couldn't get other people to be interested in the cause. They were just doing their own thing on the side and casually trying to do a little bit of outreach posts on social media like, Hey, we have a thing. But no one was getting excited about it.


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Saki =^.^=: And another problem was that there was this general attitude that I'm a scientist. I'm at work. And now I'm in work mode. And even though these same scientists are recycling at home, they're turning off the lights when they're not using it. They don't take that attitude with them to the lab. So we were trying to change that.


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Saki =^.^=: and there we go. So as a pilot project. The 1st art project I did with the Easter Sustainability group was. So we collected a bunch of polystyrene waste which we didn't recycle at the Institute. We we were recycling pet Hdpe and


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Saki =^.^=: Polypropylene, I think. Anyway, we're recycling some plastics and the others. So we decided, okay, let's let's target the ones that aren't being recycled and draw people's attention to it. Make something really pretty out of it. Get people excited. And so I made these chandeliers and


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Saki =^.^=: So this one on the left is made from serological pipettes, and these are from like cell culture or tissue culture experiments. But we only collected the the ones that were


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Saki =^.^=: not biologically contaminated. So these are often used to simply measure water when they're making like a


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Saki =^.^=: like a salt solution or something, and it so these have to be sterile when they're used, and so you can't just reuse them a bunch. They are single use plastics, but the sad thing is that they can't get recycled afterwards, because they can't join the consumer waste stream.


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Saki =^.^=: So, and then the one on the right is made of Petri dishes. Actually, I have more slides showing details on them. So I will talk about them later. Okay, so this 1st one


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Saki =^.^=: is made of 272 pipettes, and we only had 9 participating scientists. So


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Saki =^.^=: at the time when we started the project it was, it was pretty small people didn't really know about it. So we had 9 participating scientists, and we collected these pipettes over one month, which is only about one or 2 pipettes per day per person. So this seems like not a very massive amount of consumption. But keep in mind that these scientists are probably using about 10 times the amount that we can't use for the project because they were touching some biological material. And so those those are a different biohazard category. So


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Saki =^.^=: the Institute does actually consume a lot of these. And we just wanted to kind of give people a little bit of an idea of how much the Institute is using.


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Saki =^.^=: So the next thing that we did was well, actually, after the pipette chandelier and the petri dish chandelier people got really interested in the project. And so we we did another one another project. And now we had 6 labs instead of just 9 scientists who are participating. And


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Saki =^.^=: we kind of we put out these little collection boxes that said, Hey, we're doing an art project. And then people were like, Oh, wow! I didn't know that this was a thing, but they were. They were really excited and they contributed.


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Saki =^.^=: They're used gloves again, non-toxic, non-toxic, non-biohazard gloves and


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Saki =^.^=: so that dress that we saw like a few slides ago that's made from about 400 used gloves and you know what? I'm gonna play the video


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Saki =^.^=: because it actually, I think, says it a lot more quickly than I can.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay, so yeah, basically, that's the idea. We're trying to just show people


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Saki =^.^=: how much 400 gloves looks like, and I think the dress has kind of successfully done that and that video was actually made for Instagram. So these short 1 min clips that


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Saki =^.^=: fit in with people's ever shortening attention. Spans seems to be a really effective way to kind of spread the word. So yeah, that was the pilot project that we did. And


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Saki =^.^=: can we go to the next slide?


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Saki =^.^=: Nope. Well, I don't want to play the video again. Hold on.


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Saki =^.^=: There we go. Okay? So then we kind of try to


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Saki =^.^=: do a little bit more outreach. Besides, just the Instagram post. So there was a I presented the chandeliers, and while I'm wearing the dress, but we kind of did a little mini exhibition on campus to try to get more people to to look at the stuff.


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Saki =^.^=: so yeah, I think this was a pretty a pretty successful pilot project. We saved about 2 point almost 3 kg of


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Saki =^.^=: plastic. I'm not sure. I okay, it's not just polystyrene. The nitro gloves are not polystyrene. So we rescued a little bit of plastic. We got a bunch of new scientists interested in participating in future projects. And also we got a bunch of non-scientists interested like some of the Admin the staff members at Easto were also like, Oh, wait, what can I do to help? So that was really cool. We managed to, yeah, kind of get build a little community.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay? And then we even took this a step further. So I wore the dress to the Vienna ball sciences in 2024, and


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Saki =^.^=: the ball organizers actually said, Hey, do you want to come back and be part of the official ball program for next year? And I was like, Wow, yeah, I do, of course. So yeah, I made a second dress out of pipettes. And then they said, Yeah, we'll have like a solo exhibit set up for you. And so there's like a whole display, and everything with my chandeliers and a little info QR. Code that people could


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Saki =^.^=: scan and find out more about the project, and it was a little like a photo. OP, so people shared it on social media, which is exactly what we wanted. And then, as another huge success


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Saki =^.^=: we were able to network with some local politicians and also the local media. The, I think this is an interview with.


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Saki =^.^=: I can't remember the TV station. There's a TV station that did a little interview, a little feature. And so this is really important because making science. Scientific research sustainable is not just about getting the scientists involved. It's about


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Saki =^.^=: creating, like a whole infrastructure and convincing the entire society that we need to make this a priority.


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Saki =^.^=: So that's where these politicians and policymakers


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Saki =^.^=: really kind of become necessary. Those are the people who are going to say, yeah, we need to budget for the recycling programs and make new allowances and regulations for artists to work with scientists and handle lab waste. I'm kind of in a special position where I was a scientist. And now I can go to a lab and say, like, Hey, I know what I'm doing. I'm not gonna like


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Saki =^.^=: biologically contaminate myself. So yeah, give me your petri dishes. But I feel like that's kind of a barrier for for many artists who want to get into this kind of work. So yeah,


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Saki =^.^=: that was it was. It's great that we got this opportunity to connect with this outside of the Science community.


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Saki =^.^=: And of course there are a bunch of scientists at the ball, because it's the ball sciences. So that was exactly our target audience.


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Saki =^.^=: now, the big question is, did we get any actual action? So we definitely got people's attention. People got really excited. They shared our stuff on social media. We got the attention of policymakers. Now, do we see any follow up on that? Or do they just get excited and forget about us?


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Saki =^.^=: So we're going to go into that


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Saki =^.^=: we did a little bit of a follow up on our


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Saki =^.^=: our study group. I guess that we followed up with the participating scientists with like a little email survey and said, like, Hey, what do you think about the project? How do you feel about your plastic consumption? And these are some of the responses that we got emailed back. So this is like, totally, not a controlled study or anything. This was just a super casual like, I said pilot project. So. But anyway, we have these Anc testimonials.


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Saki =^.^=: So one person said it was so much fun and more rewarding to collect the plastics for our cause instead of Oh, yeah, I got to do this duty and put it in the right recycling bin. They're like, Oh, I need to sort my trash so that it can become a cool thing. So


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Saki =^.^=: Some people were made more aware of how much plastic they were using, which is kind of exactly one of the goals that we had.


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Saki =^.^=: People got excited to follow the progress on Instagram, which shows that they have a continued commitment and interest in the project. They didn't just get initially interested and forget about it.


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Saki =^.^=: Many of many of the participants were just glad to have their waste upcycled.


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Saki =^.^=: And this one, I think, is really important. We had some users say that they were kind of


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Saki =^.^=: sad when the when we stopped collecting like the gloves, for example, and they said I was so hopeful because I thought we could keep doing this and keep recycling or upcycling this plastic. But now I don't have any option but to throw it straight in the trash. So this was like about the polystyrene which the Institute doesn't recycle. So they were really bummed when we when we stopped collecting those petri dishes. And actually


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Saki =^.^=: So this is really kind of proof, even though it's just a pilot project. It's proof that art can change hearts enough to get them to have a real change so, and keep in mind that the people who switched over to the glass Petri dishes they were already kind of like the tree hugger


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Saki =^.^=: they. They were one of the most eco-conscious labs in the Institute already, and I mean they were one of the few who participated in the collection of the Petri dishes for the chandeliers, and


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Saki =^.^=: this is kind of just a summary slide of all the things I said. So art is a useful tool for raising awareness and increasing enthusiasm and participation in sustainable lab practices.


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Saki =^.^=: So as a recap of of those things I just said, this participating scientists were personally vested. They were personally, they had, like a commitment to the project, because I think


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Saki =^.^=: one of them said that. Oh, it's a co-creation like they feel like, even though they're not the artist. They feel like they're part of the creation of the project which they are.


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Saki =^.^=: Some scientists became more aware of their own plastic consumption, and they were also in now actually having more conversations about their about the topic of recycling. So


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Saki =^.^=: these were kind of these were some of the questions that they started asking, and they didn't. Really, it didn't even cross their mind before. So we got, we got people talking


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Saki =^.^=: and yeah, we're continuing to do this. We're starting to sort our autoplay waste.


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Saki =^.^=: And I think it's been kind of a high effort project for some scientists. So I'm hoping that our next project will encourage them to sort their autoclave waste and find that it's actually not that high of an effort. So that's the end of my 1st part of the talk which is just on the stuff that I have done, the art that was made from the biological waste, from the life science waste. And now we're going to go into


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Saki =^.^=: the hep stuff. So this is.


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Saki =^.^=: Now, I can't see. Let's see the toolbar. Okay, so art for help. So unlike with the life sciences, there's not like a huge consumption of things like nitrile gloves, petri dishes, etc. So we're mainly going to focus on some other aspects like scope, 3 emissions or well, actually also scope one emissions. Anyway, we're going to focus


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Saki =^.^=: on the less tangible waste, mainly the energy consumption.


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Saki =^.^=: Used associated with a high energy physics research. So today, we have a little workshop that will hopefully help


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Saki =^.^=: help you all visualize your carbon footprint or carbon emissions.


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Saki =^.^=: And there's gonna be


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Saki =^.^=: a little part of this workshop that is going to result in some art that will actually be created like in real life. Not just for virtually. So let's get started with that.


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Saki =^.^=: Okay? So we are going to break out into 3 rooms hopefully, this works. So.


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Saki =^.^=: depending on what? What your occupation is scan the corresponding QR code with your phone or copy


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Saki =^.^=: and paste that link which I realize you can't just copy it, but that also works. Okay. Please.


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Yann Coadou: I will put the links in the chat.


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Saki =^.^=: Oh, thank you. Great and maybe maybe if


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Saki =^.^=: let's see if it works to split up the


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Saki =^.^=: breakout rooms based on the poll results. Maybe it works now.


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Saki =^.^=: So yeah. So the 3, the 3 options are people who are working with gas emissions. So that's


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Saki =^.^=: What are they called the hydro fluorocarbons, the the cooling gases and then people who are doing computational work like the theoretical physics, calculations and stuff. Sorry. I have. Like no technical vocabulary. I don't work in physics. And then the 3rd QR code is for pretty much everyone else.


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Saki =^.^=: So people who are working in facilities, management, general


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Saki =^.^=: general science, or non-science, or non-physics.


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Sukanya Sinha: So I think we're still waiting for 5 people to respond.


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Sukanya Sinha: And we have all the breakout rooms open.


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Sukanya Sinha: So if you have already responded. You can go into one of the breakout rooms.


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Saki =^.^=: Cool. So these for the people who are still in the main room these are links to Google documents that have, like a little word problem. It's basically just gonna ask you to do some calculations and then we'll return to the main main room and go over some of the answers, and we can


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Greg Hallewell: Yeah, I want. I won't. Yeah. The one I'm interested in mainly is gas emissions. So if I.


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Greg Hallewell: Do you see me in the gas emissions room?


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Saki =^.^=: Welcome back everyone. We're gonna go over the answers. I just realized we have like about 10 min left. So I'm gonna try to wrap this up really quickly, but


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Saki =^.^=: for the 1st 2 groups we had a calculation of converting some sort of carbon emissions into a plastic water bottle. So just to show you the math for converting that complicated table with all of the carbon emissions into a bottle. Here's the math. Basically, it's going to equate to 58 grams of carbon emissions per plastic water bottle. So that's going to be used for next 2 calculations.


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Saki =^.^=: a 34,000 kilometer stretch of water bottles. If you just stack them, one on top of each other, and this would reach approximately a 10th of the way to the moon, and it is also equal to the mass of 12 very fat alpacas or llamas, no alpacas.


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Saki =^.^=: Oh, well, let me backtrack. You can run at serum, which has an average, a pretty average pue, or at the liveness center, which has a really a low slash, efficient power, usage, effectiveness. However, we should also consider that there is a the grid emissions factor, which is what fuel source is providing their electricity.


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Saki =^.^=: I will make a plastic sculpture, using your carbon emissions saved by attending this workshop. Virtually so. Scan this QR code with your phone and that should take you to the Google spreadsheet that will allow you to enter. How? What you've saved in carbon emissions.


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Yann Coadou: Well, Saki, thank you very much. I think it was a great way to open people's eyes, realizing


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Yann Coadou: it was great what you did, and it changed from the routine of our usual meetings, where we just have talks, questions, talks, questions. People actually had to talk to each other. I've seen different approaches in the various breaking rooms.


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Saki =^.^=: Awesome. Yeah, thanks for having me and and for trusting me to run a physics themed workshop, even though it's a little out of out of my field, and it was great meeting everyone and even though I didn't talk directly to everyone but seeing that you're working together in the breakout rooms really cool.


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Saki =^.^=: And yeah, send me an email if you want to. Yeah, just like, keep in touch. You have my website. It has my email on there. It's also just sakitheartist.com. I'm also Saki, the artist on Instagram. Send me a message there. And I'm also yeah, open to more art collaborations. So if your Institute is looking for an artist for some reason hit me up.


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Yann Coadou: Very good.


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Sukanya Sinha: Thank you so much.


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Yann Coadou: Thank you.


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Sukanya Sinha: With that, I guess we're sort of on time still. So let's thank Saki again and move on to the next part of the conference today, which is, gonna be a panel discussion with some very prominent people from labs across the world. So if I can invite all the panelists to if they're willing to switch on their cameras.


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Sukanya Sinha: Probably I mean it's it's if I introduce them properly, it's going to take the whole day. So I'm going to be brief and let them speak about their labs themselves. So 1st off on the panelist we have Professor Takayuki Saiki from Kk.


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Sukanya Sinha: And he has been in Tokyo since he obtained his Phd. From Tokyo in 1996,


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Sukanya Sinha: and then eventually, after several stints in different institutes, he has moved to Kk. Since 2,004 as a faculty, and now he is working on the green international linear collider activities for more than 10 years. And he's on the Icfa panel for sustainable accelerators and colliders since 2015.