WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.000 To our next talk by Thomas Guru. 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:03.000 Otherwise? 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Yes. Oh, okay. So it seems I cannot share my slides for some reason. Hello. 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:28.000 Oh, no. Let me see. 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:29.000 That's perfect. 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:58.000 Okay. So okay so i hope you can see my slides Okay, so yeah, so I would like to talk about some activities regarding sustainability in germany And the context of errone data. So what is errone data So in Germany, the research at large facilities, which he means accelerators and telescopes is funded by the federal ministry 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:13.000 And it's going under the label of research on universe and metaverse Or in German, and that's where the abbreviation arom comes from. 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:22.000 And here you also see some framework program document which describes this funding for this type of research. 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:31.000 And within this framework, there's now a funding line also for digitization, which is called errone data. 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:39.000 And so here are projects working on overarching solutions in digitization are funded. 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:51.000 And in addition, there's also an AROM data hub funded which is doing networking and then transfer. 00:01:51.000 --> 00:02:10.000 So and now this Iran communities are quite broad so basically it ranges from from the smallest scale to the largest scale so we have particle physics, subterron and nuclear physics X-rator physics features with synchron radiation, neutrons, nuclear probes. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:30.000 Astro particle physics and astronomy. So, of course, also there the the requirements regarding data and computing are different we have huge amounts of data but in detail, there's some diversity. 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:50.000 But still, I mean, we are in this community group together and we also thought about sustainability It was the first workshop about two years ago Well, we had several keynote talks to get some inspiration, some ideas. 00:02:50.000 --> 00:03:16.000 Then we had in small groups, some parallel discussion topics where we worked on several topics and then came up with your ideas and and uh some some who recommendations how we want to address this climate challenge and so we produced a strategy paper 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:41.000 This paper was already at the last sustainable help meeting there was a presentation on this by ben purse so so here you see and it's now finally also published which also took a bit of time. So here, just I want to briefly mention what the context of this paper is without 00:03:41.000 --> 00:04:00.000 Going into too much detail. So we describe first the challenge that we are facing and then we have chapters on several aspects smart data transformation so they are for example you can reduce the form merge of the data merma 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:21.000 Make sure it can be reused, make it fair Then software engineering and data analysis, how we write our software how we do analysis for example with workflows And also here, of course, one can try to make it fair and reusable 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:43.000 Then algorithms and artificial intelligence, of course, AI is a technology with high potential maybe in both directions so it can be used to increase efficiency to use less resources but of course also the training of models require some energy so one has to find a good balance there 00:04:43.000 --> 00:05:06.000 Then, of course, we do our computing on computing centers on some infrastructures And they have an impact on our footprint. So we discussed some ideas what to do there And maybe the most difficult part is to develop a culture for sustainable science. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:21.000 Some ideas are also discussed there and yeah finally also have a section on funding and institutional support, which is also needed, of course, to realize the ideas. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:49.000 Okay, then in this document, we also compile a list of measures ordered by By the time scale on which they can be implemented both here. I won't go into detail on short timescale, it's mainly raising awareness, communicating, sharing knowledge about measures one can take. 00:05:49.000 --> 00:06:02.000 On medium scale, time scale, it's mainly optimizing our software, our data management or workflows and so on. 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:21.000 And then on longer time scale, this is mainly addressing then the infrastructure, of course, to build a new computing center. It's a long term things so that's that's what's mainly in this third part of this portfolio of measures. 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:42.000 So, and then, yeah, following up on this first in-person workshop we also had two follow-up workshops first one about a year ago from now And I think also Our first workshop also triggered some ideas and we heard some of these ideas 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:49.000 Then at this follow-up workshop There are, of course, also activities which nevertheless would happen. 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:55.000 But I think it helped to increase the activity within the community. 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:00.000 So here, just as a few examples what was presented there 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:24.000 There are workshops on sustainable computing so people learn how to use their computing system an inefficient way we had to talk about know your footprint talk about the estimation of the footprint of flights for Bell2 collaboration meeting. 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:33.000 Then also people start to look into a system which informs users about What are good times to submit your thoughts? 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:42.000 When is the footprint of the power low and does it make sense in that respect to submit jobs? 00:07:42.000 --> 00:08:04.000 Uh you know then also an idea of scaling the idea of scaling the available resources at the site depending on availability of green energy and yeah so in addition to this variation or adjustment in time also there was a discussion about 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:11.000 Optimizing this in space or having data centers at location where there's lots of green energy. 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:38.000 And yeah, then also in November last year, there was a second online follow-up meeting again with several interesting ideas, for example, building some telescopes with low resources a discussion of yeah of sustainability efforts, energy use at dizzy also picking up the idea of carbon-aware scaling 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:50.000 At a site level, but also then at let's say grid level to schedule or exclude sites if it's unfavorable. 00:08:50.000 --> 00:09:00.000 And also, for example, a talk about building a computing center for the Einstein telescope in a sustainable way. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:29.000 So then also in parallel to this, there was a discussion with the funding agency with the BMBF. So this was a so-called trial work a scientist from universities and researchers were discussing with the funding agency And this resulted in a document with recommendations for consideration of sustainability in basic research at large facilities. 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:37.000 And yeah, so here I just picked two draw items so they acknowledge that it requires resources. 00:09:37.000 --> 00:10:00.000 And an active and structured dialogue between science, politics, society and industry Well, that's certainly good. And then, yeah, the content is structures in a few sections about research planning and organization boundary conditions what are the funding political boundary conditions, education. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:17.000 Development of technologies, cultural change, and finally also research for sustainability this is also in this Arum field of course you might have research also on batteries or things like this. 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:36.000 And then, yeah, finally, regarding these political aspects, maybe you know we have a new government in germany And the parties that are in this government in their coalition agreement, they also have a statement. So they want to strengthen research infrastructure strengthen the research 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:51.000 Infrastructure construction program and include requirements on climate protection and sustainability. So I would say here it's on the radar of funding agencies on all of the and politics. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:11:01.000 So then we have to follow up. One workshop coming up again in person in Athen in end of July, beginning of August. 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:21.000 In addition to sustainability also we'll discuss about ethics with Fukovsk closely related so here you can find the Indico link and if you're interested you can also still submit an abstract i mean the focus is of course more on germany but we are 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:28.000 We are always happy to have new ideas and input to this. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:45.000 So yeah, to summarize the awareness of the need to address the climate crisis. And I think also it's rising So all these exist? There are many activities Some on small scale, which is also good. I think it's not just 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:50.000 One silver bullet which will solve everything. We need many activities. 00:11:50.000 --> 00:12:08.000 But I think there's also potential maybe of a bit larger impact if we further network and coordinate our And I think therefore it's also very good to have a workshop like this now to the second in-person air and data workshop this summer. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:12.000 Thanks. 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:27.000 Thank you so much, Thomas. And we are welcome to have any questions. 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:33.000 I'm seeing some cameras, but no hands Ian, please go ahead. 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:52.000 Yes. As you summarize it here yeah you seem to be targeting mostly climate slash carbon emissions. Are you considering sustainability in a more in a wider sense also uh within this framework 00:12:52.000 --> 00:13:12.000 Yes, yes. I mean, yes, I focused here on the climate change. I think that's also what what I would say the primary target is But I would say it's not limited to this. Maybe let me see here also on the recommendations. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:39.000 For example extent monitoring of resources beyond co2 water material so it is there, but I would agree that The main target, I think, is climate 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:49.000 Thank you so much. I'm not seeing any more hands, so I think we could also keep it going with our next talk.